Is the APBA going to allow the B2 blaster to race in the sport spec class?

[Maulin Marto]

Anyone help me out on this one. B2 blaster legal in APBA? :confused:
Asking for the "Iron Man" Eric....Mr. B2

[fox river pwc]

The b2 was never legal for Sport Spec, and probably won't be, IMHO.

Sport Spec was a class created via a true grass roots effort by a handful of very enthusiastic and knowledgeable sport mod racers - after a lot of testing to make it fair, fun, and affordable for all the skis. The rules are exactly as they created them, with really no sanctioning body involvemet whatsoever, and the general consensus thus far is that the class is a hit. Since the racers decided not to allow the b2, my guess is it will be up to the racers to change that rule. IMHO, I don't expect the rule to change.

However, since the GLW is more about filling lines, and bending the rules is generally accepted to do so, especially in a class like Sport Spec, so I don't think racing it here will be an issue. Someone would have to really raise a stink before the Sport Spec rules would be strictly enforced.

[Maulin Marto]

OH crap....I don't think that's what Eric is going to want to hear. I don't mind it at GLW at all, but isn't one of or races an APBA event this year? Racine? Like a national stop or something? Thanks for the info.

[fox river pwc]

You're welcome.

Yes, according to the schedule at the moment, Racine is a national IJSBA event (no APBA 'round these parts). From the looks of things (and keep in mind I'm not inside the loop at all on this stuff), UWP is involved along with the GLWT for Racine. You/Eric should go to the UWP website and send them an e-mail, asking for a ruling on the B2 now. The worst that could happen is they say "no", and he has to skip that event, or find a B1/HX to borrow, or race his B2 in a runabout class. My plans for this season are still up in the air as far as vintage and sport spec, so my blaster might be available for Racine.

From reading on pwc today, when others have asked (the racers involved with creating the sport spec rules) about allowing the B2 in sport spec, the responses have been a pretty solid "no", but I honestly have no idea what's happened so far since the rules were written - and they were written with the idea that the racers could change them once they saw how things played out. Perhaps the rule creators feel the B2 doesn't have a chance and would allow it to race??? I dunno. I know the general thoughts I've read have been that the B2 gets killed off the line, but does much better in the chop. I've only personally ridden a B2 once, for about 2 minutes, so I'm no expert, and I'm certainly no experienced B1 racer - I've just paid attention to how sport spec came about and read all could about it, as I figured it would be a class I'd consistently race, maybe someday.

Don't fret just yet...

[jeepinxj]

Awesome I will email UWP thanks for the info. MAybe its time to so some work to the B2 and step it up to the runabout class. Ill get worked in that class so maybe its time to see if someone wants a B2??? We will just have to see what they say. Marto Im gunnin for you this year!!! Looks like I might just have to start a B1 project, problem is your the one that helps me so no suprises under my hood.

[admin]

Here is what was on the UWP site. Please follow the link to the UWP site for more info.

http://uwpinc.com/Sport_Spec_Class.htm

[jeepinxj]

well if the hx is allowed I would see no reason why the B2 wouldn't be in the same class but rules are rules

[fox river pwc]

The HX and B1 both meet "sport" size requirements as defined years ago by the IJSBA. The B2 is larger than the "sport" size requirements, thus it falls into the runabout category.

The HX is much closer in size to a B1 than a B2. I believe the HX is slightly narrower than a B1, but longer, maybe half a foot or so longer.

[admin]

I think the width of the b2 is what qualifies it as a runabout and not sport. I might be wrong though.

[fox river pwc]

Yep, it's pretty much all about the width. From the rule book:

5.2 SKI DIVISION
5.2.1 The Ski Division includes PWC which are designed for one person to stand on and are controlled from a pivoting
handlepole.
5.2.2 Watercraft competing in the Ski Division must conform to the following criteria:
1) Dry weight must be greater than 102kg (225 lb.) for 550cc classes;
2) Dry weight must be greater than 114kg (260 lb.) in all other classes;
3) Hull length cannot exceed 304.8cm (120 in.);
4) Hull width must be between 50.8cm (20 in.) and 76.2cm (30 in.).
5.3 SPORT DIVISION
5.3.1 The Sport Division includes PWC which are designed for one or more people and have a seat.
5.3.2 Watercraft competing in the Sport Division must conform to the following criteria:
1) Dry weight must be greater than 113kg (250 lb.) for 650cc classes;
2) Dry weight must be greater than 136kg (300 lb.) for 800cc classes;
3) Hull length cannot exceed 304.8cm (120 in.);
4) Hull width must be between 66.0cm (26 in.) and 96.5cm (38 in.).
5.4 RUNABOUT DIVISION
5.4.1 The Runabout Division includes PWC which are designed for one or more people and have a seat.
5.4.2 Watercraft competing in the Runabout Division must conform to the following criteria:
1) Dry weight must be greater than 155kg (340 lb.) for 660cc classes;
2) Dry weight must be greater than 182kg (400 lb.) for 800cc classes;
3) Dry weight must be greater than 216kg (475 lb.) for 1300cc classes;
4) Hull length cannot exceed 342.9cm (135 in.);
5) Hull width must be between 96.5cm (38 in.) and 127.0cm (50 in.).

[Maulin Marto]

I think the width of the b2 is what qualifies it as a runabout and not sport. I might be wrong though.

That thing can go in the runabout class? :eek: For real? You hear that Eric?

[Maulin Marto]

Rip it Eric! :D Then I can get you off my six....:)

[CHOOCHOO]

Do we have some new B2 classic stock racers HMMMMMMMMMMMM? It a Party over here! I will go easy on you. I will ride with one sponsen tied behind my back. LOL

[Maulin Marto]

What we really want is a 440/550 ONLY class....old school stand-up!

[fox river pwc]

I have a better idea.

Craig, you should be DOWNSIZING your ski, not bulking it up for summer, so your should be riding an HX. The sport spec rules for the HX mean it will have a simple, stock, and reliable motor - just the way you like it - plus, it's still your favorite brand of ski. You'll just have to get used to not having your training wheels anymore :):):).

B2s are not that tough to sell, and B1s are readily available and affordable, so Eric can downsize as well, and he can stick with his brand of ski too.

I might also know a few guys interested in racing sport spec, if it's crowded enough.

Then, the nat'l events that come this way could get real interesting...

[fox river pwc]

What we really want is a 440/550 ONLY class....old school stand-up!

I think pat mell was running his 550 vintage class all last year on his monster energy tour in michigan.

[jeepinxj]

maay be ill just try and make a fast b2 and do work in the runabout class







NOT!!!!!!!!

[admin]

Scott let you run it last year. I would just run it in the rounds that are not the national tour stop. Maybe by then Marty will have a back up built by then ad he will let you use his for that race.

[Maulin Marto]

Scott let you run it last year. I would just run it in the rounds that are not the national tour stop. Maybe by then Marty will have a back up built by then ad he will let you use his for that race.
Marty should just sell the B1 to Eric to further his Hydrospace desires.:rolleyes:

[jeepinxj]

Marty should just sell the B1 to Eric to further his Hydrospace desires.:rolleyes:


Hey sold my comanche!!!! You should race it, I may buy an sxr still idk. If you sell your B1 I will sell my B2 and get an SXR. HMMMM now were thinking.

[Maulin Marto]

Hey sold my comanche!!!! You should race it, I may buy an sxr still idk. If you sell your B1 I will sell my B2 and get an SXR. HMMMM now were thinking.
I'm thinking real hard about selling the B1 just because I will find it hard to fork out Over $1500+ in race fees alone for Suzy and I this year....Gotta cut the fat from somewhere, and my stand-up racing is all that really matters to me. I should get a good buck for the B1....its like new under the hood, all stock too! Lets bang SXR's dude! :D

[jeepinxj]

I'm thinking real hard about selling the B1 just because I will find it hard to fork out Over $1500+ in race fees alone for Suzy and I this year....Gotta cut the fat from somewhere, and my stand-up racing is all that really matters to me. I should get a good buck for the B1....its like new under the hood, all stock too! Lets bang SXR's dude! :D

O man i am tempted!!! I should be able to get some good money for my B2 but damn SXR's are expensive. Britt would kill me if I didnt have something for her to ride. We should get the girls to all race standups including riley. I think its time to retire the B2 tho.

[STXRGirl]

I don't think my sponsor is going to fork over anymore $$ for me to race my standup ;) Im going to have to sell a kidney to pay for all the new race stuff I want!!!

[STXRGirl]

O man i am tempted!!! I should be able to get some good money for my B2 but damn SXR's are expensive. Britt would kill me if I didnt have something for her to ride. We should get the girls to all race standups including riley. I think its time to retire the B2 tho.
Britt who? I thought you broomed her? :eek:
fyi...Marto hacked my account

[jeepinxj]

Britt who? I thought you broomed her? :eek:
fyi...Marto hacked my account

ha ya nope still here its good tho, I think marty should sell his b1 so u can race standups with the girls class I vote yes let's take a poll

[Maulin Marto]

ha ya nope still here its good tho, I think marty should sell his b1 so u can race standups with the girls class I vote yes let's take a poll
I gotta pole for STXRgirl....:D

[jeepinxj]

I gotta pole for STXRgirl....:D

hahaha thats awesome